Welcome to All Souls Missoula, a curious little community of faith, in Jesus, but one where you don't have to share our convictions in order to be our friends. Thanks for checking us out. It means a lot to us.
So who are we, anyway? That's a good question. Here's the short answer.
In Fall of 2006, two families - the Cryders and the Sutherlands (obligatory family photos here and here) - packed up all their earthly belongings and move to Missoula in order to start a church from scratch (crazy, huh?).
Early on, we were known simply as The Missoula Project; when we finally began meeting for informal worship in the Spring of 2008 we felt it was time to pick a church name that captured who we are - we've been All Souls Missoula ever since.
Today, All Souls is a vibrant worshiping community that has adopted the phrase "working to renew the city socially, culturally and spiritually" to describe why we exist and why we do what we do. We want to be a church that Missoulians appreciate whether or not they ever attend our gatherings.
We realize that many these days are wary of the church. Some of them left years ago, turned off by hypocrisy, religiosity, or their own inability to measure up. Others have never ventured in, but find themselves wondering if real Christianity actually exists. We desire to plant a church that is accessible to people like these - ordinary folk looking for honest answers. To this end, we desire to speak clearly and freshly, in a way that is intelligible to those who are not religious insiders. Consequently, we will strive to avoid buzzwords and catch phrases as much as possible.
We also recognize that some have been burned by the church in the past. Some have learned the hard way that everyone has a creed, and every creed has consequences. People like these want to know where we are coming from, and where we are going. That's a good thing, and we desire to be very upfront - about who is welcome, about our core values, and about where we stand. Consequently, we will strive to spell out exactly what we believe and why, and how it all plays out (want a practical example? Check out our thoughts on Jesus and smoking pot).
Most importantly, we value your input. If you have comments, questions, or suggestions, we'd love to hear what you think (whether you agree with us or not!). So make yourself at home and have a look around.
Once again, welcome to All Souls Missoula. We hope to hear from you soon!
Saturday, May 31, 2014
Jesus & Pot
"So what do you think about smoking pot?" That's what the young woman asked me, Joe Pastor, as she leaned across the table in Wordens where we were eating lunch.
That's a good question. After all, Scripture doesn't exactly say a whole lot about the demon weed (other than in Genesis 15, where it's God doing both the smoking and the pot - bet you didn't know that was in there, did you?).
So how would you answer this? And what's the truly Christian response?
Too many times we would-be followers of Christ say little more than "Bad dog! No biscuit!" as we wag our finger disapprovingly in the asker's direction. But is there a better answer? Can we say something more? What would Jesus say if he was the one answering? Be careful not to assume this question is a gimmee.
With cases like this, I think its often helpful to consider what's NOT being asked - or rather, to ponder the question behind the question, the real premise that often lies unexpressed. You see, someone who asks this might actually be asking a several different things, for several different reasons.
For instance, he might be saying "Does God even care what I do with my body? Does this 'faith' thing have any connection with the way I live my 'real life'? Or are the two so disconnected that I can do whatever I want in the here and now as long as I 'believe in God' as being important for the hereafter?"
In a case like this, I'd want to say, "Hey, God DOES care what we do with our bodies." Jesus doesn't just come demanding intellectual allegiance - he actually has the gall to claim authority over every inch of creation, over every breath we take. Jesus demands we acknowledge him as Lord ("the big Kahuna") in everything we do. This is why he can say that ANYTHING that does not flow from faith-in-him is nothing less than rebellion, sin, wrong.
My wanting to smoke pot is nothing less than high treason if I'm pursuing it for my own sake, my own indulgence, as my own little corner of the universe where I get to do what I want, to be my own king.
And my NOT smoking pot can be exactly the same thing - just as self-serving, just as treacherous, just as wicked in God's sight.
Yes, you heard me right - choosing NOT to smoke pot could actually be a sin. (I realize it's probably been a while since you heard a pastor say that from the pulpit. Preaching is a dismal affair these days).
You see, someone might actually be asking a very different question altogether: "Does God love me more because I DON'T smoke pot?"
To restate the question slightly, "If my irreligion (my badness) results in wrath, shouldn't my religion (my goodness) earn me favor?" The answer (surpisingly) is no. Here's why.
Far too often, Christians use "sins" like smoking pot (or whatever your favorite vice might be) as both a hammer and a ladder.
As a hammer, we point to people doing "bad things" and just nail them right between the eyes with it - we withhold our approval (or dish it out) based on whether or not the person conforms with our standard of morality. But Jesus doesn't deal with people this way - he tells them to trust in his goodness, not their own.
As a ladder, we use this same standard to prop ourselves up, to give ourselves pats on the back because we're "good people", we do "good things", and we're not like all those nasty "sinners" ("Thank you God that I'm not like all those other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector here. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get. Don't you love me because I'm so good and holy and obedient?"). Jesus rightly reserves his harshest criticism for people like this - whitewashed tombs! hypocrites!
You see, we can do all the right things, but for all the wrong reasons. We can do what is "good" not because it's good, but because we see an opportunity to use that "goodness" to make ourselves look better than others. No wonder Jesus got ticked (and if Jesus is pissed, then God's not buying it either).
So in a case like this our answer should be emphatic - absolutely NOT! If you think God loves you more because you are NOT smoking pot, or less because you ARE, then you don't really understand the message of Christ. You do not know what grace is yet.
God does not wait for us to clean ourselves up. He doesn't give us an ethical standard of behavior, a set of rules, a list of dos-and-don'ts, and then lavish his affection on those who measure up, and frown disapprovingly on those who don't.
Nope, his criteria is much simpler than that: Are you family? Are you royalty? Are you a son or daughter of the King? Blood really is thicker than anything else. Especially when it belongs to Christ, poured out for us. He meets us where we are (although he never leaves us there).
In light of this, there is a very real sense where it doesn't matter one whit whether or not you are smoking pot. The only thing that matters is this: Do you have Christ as your big brother? Are you clinging to him for all your rightness and approval from God? Because he alone is the entry point to God's favor, and he's not just the door - he's the whole house and estate as well.
Jesus Christ IS the promised land. He is the bread of life. He is living water. He is everything we are looking for in everything else (including pot). He's not just for the sweet-bye-and-bye. He delivers life in the here and now.
If I have Christ, God cannot love me more than he already does. Even if I smoke pot. But everything that pot is, all the good that it gives, that's just a pale reflection, a dim echo, pointing to something bigger and better and stronger. Something that is only found in Christ.
So does God care if we smoke pot? Absolutely. And absolutely not.
Both of those statements are equally true. And the answer that is most appropriate depends entirely on the question behind the question, on where the person asking it is really coming from. It depends on her context, her motive, her heart.
And to figure that out, I'm going to have to have a relationship with her first - I'm going to have to learn to listen, to ask good questions, to discern what she's really asking. I'm going to have to learn to love her, not because she agrees with me, not because she props up my particular code of conduct, but simply because she is created in the image of God, and he loves her, even while she is still his enemy, even before she's got it all together, even while she is still a work in progress.
Just. Like. Me.
You see, even at my best, I am still a piece of work - always in process, never fully arrived. And I need to constantly remember that God loves sinners just like me, so much that he was willing to die for me. And for her. And for him.
At the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is this - will I acknowledge my own inability to measure up; will I put all my hope and trust in Christ's goodness on my behalf; will I pledge my allegience to him, rather than to myself.
Does that sound scandalous? It should. Is it intoxicatingly freeing? Absolutely. Why? Because it gets me over myself, and it allows me to really love others where they are, without requiring them to change first.
I wonder how many of us are really willing to love like that?
To love Christ, not because of what he can do for us, but simply because he himself is stunningly beautiful and lovely? To love those who are different from us, even if they never change or become like us, simply because God himself has loved them first?
To love ourselves, not because of anything we do, or haven't done, but simply because God himself loves us already, because he's tickled pink with Jesus, and if we're with Christ then we're ok too - because what's ours is his, and what's his is ours, and nothing (not even pot) can separate us from the love of God.
We'd like to be a church where you can put THAT in your pipe and smoke it...
That's a good question. After all, Scripture doesn't exactly say a whole lot about the demon weed (other than in Genesis 15, where it's God doing both the smoking and the pot - bet you didn't know that was in there, did you?).
So how would you answer this? And what's the truly Christian response?
Too many times we would-be followers of Christ say little more than "Bad dog! No biscuit!" as we wag our finger disapprovingly in the asker's direction. But is there a better answer? Can we say something more? What would Jesus say if he was the one answering? Be careful not to assume this question is a gimmee.
With cases like this, I think its often helpful to consider what's NOT being asked - or rather, to ponder the question behind the question, the real premise that often lies unexpressed. You see, someone who asks this might actually be asking a several different things, for several different reasons.
For instance, he might be saying "Does God even care what I do with my body? Does this 'faith' thing have any connection with the way I live my 'real life'? Or are the two so disconnected that I can do whatever I want in the here and now as long as I 'believe in God' as being important for the hereafter?"
In a case like this, I'd want to say, "Hey, God DOES care what we do with our bodies." Jesus doesn't just come demanding intellectual allegiance - he actually has the gall to claim authority over every inch of creation, over every breath we take. Jesus demands we acknowledge him as Lord ("the big Kahuna") in everything we do. This is why he can say that ANYTHING that does not flow from faith-in-him is nothing less than rebellion, sin, wrong.
My wanting to smoke pot is nothing less than high treason if I'm pursuing it for my own sake, my own indulgence, as my own little corner of the universe where I get to do what I want, to be my own king.
And my NOT smoking pot can be exactly the same thing - just as self-serving, just as treacherous, just as wicked in God's sight.
Yes, you heard me right - choosing NOT to smoke pot could actually be a sin. (I realize it's probably been a while since you heard a pastor say that from the pulpit. Preaching is a dismal affair these days).
You see, someone might actually be asking a very different question altogether: "Does God love me more because I DON'T smoke pot?"
To restate the question slightly, "If my irreligion (my badness) results in wrath, shouldn't my religion (my goodness) earn me favor?" The answer (surpisingly) is no. Here's why.
Far too often, Christians use "sins" like smoking pot (or whatever your favorite vice might be) as both a hammer and a ladder.
As a hammer, we point to people doing "bad things" and just nail them right between the eyes with it - we withhold our approval (or dish it out) based on whether or not the person conforms with our standard of morality. But Jesus doesn't deal with people this way - he tells them to trust in his goodness, not their own.
As a ladder, we use this same standard to prop ourselves up, to give ourselves pats on the back because we're "good people", we do "good things", and we're not like all those nasty "sinners" ("Thank you God that I'm not like all those other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector here. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get. Don't you love me because I'm so good and holy and obedient?"). Jesus rightly reserves his harshest criticism for people like this - whitewashed tombs! hypocrites!
You see, we can do all the right things, but for all the wrong reasons. We can do what is "good" not because it's good, but because we see an opportunity to use that "goodness" to make ourselves look better than others. No wonder Jesus got ticked (and if Jesus is pissed, then God's not buying it either).
So in a case like this our answer should be emphatic - absolutely NOT! If you think God loves you more because you are NOT smoking pot, or less because you ARE, then you don't really understand the message of Christ. You do not know what grace is yet.
God does not wait for us to clean ourselves up. He doesn't give us an ethical standard of behavior, a set of rules, a list of dos-and-don'ts, and then lavish his affection on those who measure up, and frown disapprovingly on those who don't.
Nope, his criteria is much simpler than that: Are you family? Are you royalty? Are you a son or daughter of the King? Blood really is thicker than anything else. Especially when it belongs to Christ, poured out for us. He meets us where we are (although he never leaves us there).
In light of this, there is a very real sense where it doesn't matter one whit whether or not you are smoking pot. The only thing that matters is this: Do you have Christ as your big brother? Are you clinging to him for all your rightness and approval from God? Because he alone is the entry point to God's favor, and he's not just the door - he's the whole house and estate as well.
Jesus Christ IS the promised land. He is the bread of life. He is living water. He is everything we are looking for in everything else (including pot). He's not just for the sweet-bye-and-bye. He delivers life in the here and now.
If I have Christ, God cannot love me more than he already does. Even if I smoke pot. But everything that pot is, all the good that it gives, that's just a pale reflection, a dim echo, pointing to something bigger and better and stronger. Something that is only found in Christ.
So does God care if we smoke pot? Absolutely. And absolutely not.
Both of those statements are equally true. And the answer that is most appropriate depends entirely on the question behind the question, on where the person asking it is really coming from. It depends on her context, her motive, her heart.
And to figure that out, I'm going to have to have a relationship with her first - I'm going to have to learn to listen, to ask good questions, to discern what she's really asking. I'm going to have to learn to love her, not because she agrees with me, not because she props up my particular code of conduct, but simply because she is created in the image of God, and he loves her, even while she is still his enemy, even before she's got it all together, even while she is still a work in progress.
Just. Like. Me.
You see, even at my best, I am still a piece of work - always in process, never fully arrived. And I need to constantly remember that God loves sinners just like me, so much that he was willing to die for me. And for her. And for him.
At the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is this - will I acknowledge my own inability to measure up; will I put all my hope and trust in Christ's goodness on my behalf; will I pledge my allegience to him, rather than to myself.
Does that sound scandalous? It should. Is it intoxicatingly freeing? Absolutely. Why? Because it gets me over myself, and it allows me to really love others where they are, without requiring them to change first.
I wonder how many of us are really willing to love like that?
To love Christ, not because of what he can do for us, but simply because he himself is stunningly beautiful and lovely? To love those who are different from us, even if they never change or become like us, simply because God himself has loved them first?
To love ourselves, not because of anything we do, or haven't done, but simply because God himself loves us already, because he's tickled pink with Jesus, and if we're with Christ then we're ok too - because what's ours is his, and what's his is ours, and nothing (not even pot) can separate us from the love of God.
We'd like to be a church where you can put THAT in your pipe and smoke it...
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